Icelanders say:
No to Ice-save – No to Ice-slave
The Icelandic President Olafur Ragnar Grimson refused to sign the Ice-save bill, which would have obligated the Icelandic tax-payer to pay unconditionally for the debts of the Ice-save division of Landsbanki, a private bank, which had collapsed in 2008. A large percentage of the Icelandic people had signed a petition for the president not to sign the bill and the president listened.
Last week the Icelandic parliament approved the Icesave package with a very thin majority.
The members of the Parliament had been under strong pressure to make this decision, although most disagreed with it personally.
The Icelandic government in turn had been for many months under strong pressure by the IMF, the British and Dutch government as well as from the European Union, to agree to a payment of the Icesave debts without the preconditions the Icelandic parliament had set in a previous decision for a conditional repayment.
The conditions had been, that Iceland would pay as a percentage of national income. In other words the parliament had agreed to pay, but only so much that it wouldn´t hurt the Icelandic economy.
The British and Dutch governments, under pressure of the international financial elites represented in the IMF, however, didn´t allow for any reasonable conditions. They wanted the total surrender and if Iceland couldn´t make the payments they wanted the surrender of all Icelandic natural resources to them.
In other words Iceland would have to become an exploited colony again, as in the times of the Danish rule.
National sovereignty would have been a thing of the past, a short past which had lasted only from 1944 til 2008.
The Icelandic parliament and the government gave in to the pressure, since it had been made clear to them, that if Iceland wouldn´t surrender unconditionally it would have meant a declaration of war (an economic war, probably). The Icelandic minister of finance actually said so in a press interview.
The Icelandic government knew from very recent experience, what this would mean.
Right at the beginning of the banking crisis, Iceland had been put on the list of terrorist supporting countries – right next to Iran. Subsequently all Icelandic assets in Britain were frozen, and the last and the largest Icelandic bank, which had not yet been bankrupted then and might have possibly weathered the storm, went down.
All financial lines to Iceland were cut. No payments could be made to and from Iceland. After three weeks Icelandic retailers warned that they were running out of food and were unable to import anything, because of the international financial boycott on the country. Fuel supplies for the fishing industry would have run out after a few months as well. Without fish or any other food, the country would literally have to starve.
However, in spite of all those threats the vast majority of the Icelandic people do not want to give in. They see the Ice-save debts as not belonging to them, but to the corrupt banks and their owners.
One thing, that´s especially unfair is that the Ice-save part of the Icelandic bank Landsbanki was fully controlled by British bankers.
The director of Icesave, Mark Sismey-Durrant, was an important well-integrated British banker, a member of the “Worshipful Company of International Bankers”, the British banker guild. There he was a member of one of the standing committees:
Charity and Education Committee
Bill Whitehead (Chairman)
Gerald Ashley
George Copus
Stanley Hurn
Anthony Rhodes
Mark Sismey-Durrant
Eric Stobart
Sean Taylor
Bob White
Sismey Durrant started his career as an international banker at one of the largest British banks: the Hongkong-Shanghai-Banking-Corporation, HSBC.
The HSBC “advisors” had been responsible for talking the Icelandic government into privatizing the banks in 2003. Five years later those banks crashed, and they crashed the countries´economy.
Before the privatization Icelandic banks had been in public hands. One belonged to the central government others to the communities around the country, others to farmers associations or pension funds.
By recycling all national income through those public banks all the great Icelandic infrastructure had been built up, from roads to tunnels to hydro-electric energy and thermal energy to warm our houses and public buildings. All of this had been built before the privatization, none of it was built with foreign money.
Iceland already had two large aluminum factories, only the third one was built by foreign investment going through the private banks.
The banks had privatized on the advice of foreigners.
The most destructive one, Icesave, was run by a foreigner and the collapse had occured because of foreign speculation with the Icelandic krona.
And now the Icelandic people are supposed to pick up the tab?
Until last week nearly a quarter of the population had signed a petition for the president not to sign the bill, which had been accepted by the parliament. The Icelandic president listened. He didn´t sign. He wants the people to decide in a referendum what should be done.
Of course the Icelandic mass-media, like all mass-media fully in the hands of the elites, is now busy at work convincing people that they would have to agree to pay debts they haven´t made. We are now told night and day that all hell will break loose if we don´t. For if the British and the Dutch governments don´t like the decision of the Icelandic people, even before the people have spoken, then they will go to courts. And supposedly the courts will have us pay far,far, far more.
How much more they can make us pay, I can´t see.
As far as we know, the per capita debts on the people of Iceland because of Icesave is even now greater than the per capita debts the allies put unto the heads of the German people after WWI. This, by the way, was one of the reasons for the total destruction of the German financial system, the German economy and later on the rise of Nazism.
And then there is still the threat of another international boycott.
Time will tell, what will happen.
At the moment the decision of the Icelandic president was a victory for the people, a victory for real and direct democracy.
Referendum.
Fair enough, Icelanders.
Now don’t allow the politicians serving the banks win.
Don’t let them steal your freedom, Icelanders.
Like they did in Ireland with the stolen YES vote on Lisbon. Watch the ballot boxes.
Go Vikings!!! More power to you. Theiving London pirates and their Icelandic puppets knew this situation would develop to their benefit all along.
Congratulations are appropriate for this refusal to bow ro blackmail.
the whole thing was likely set up to cause you to be their slaves
HELL NO you shouldnt have to pay that
learn to be self sufficient and for the love of God, kick all brits and freemasons out because they will be looking for payback for not bowing the F down
Iceland has struck a blow for freedom for people all over the world ny saying NO to the banks. Almost all banks and currencies will collapse before the end of 2010.
Iceland, where is Sportacus when you guys need him!
Congratulations Icelanders!
Don`t give in to the London Bankster criminals.
They are hated just as much here in Britain!
Dear People of Iceland
Don’t worry about an “international boycott” the only country I personally boycott is Israel. And if you succeed in your endeavors to free your country from the grip of the central banks I can almost guarantee that the “made in Iceland label” will be highly sought after commodity the world over =]
Peace
Right on people of Iceland! Do not pay the bank one penny! Stay out of the debt slavery, so many Canadians are completely fooled into buying 35+ year mortgages and enslaving themselves to banks. SAY NO everyone to all high interest debt (credit cards) DO NOT sign any mortgages that are 3 x your income. So if you make 50K/year your mortgage must never exceed 150K maximum ever, and have a minimum of 20% down.
Notsilvia,
Thanks for keeping us informed about your progress. We applaud your refusal to allow the bankers to steal your country.
As all of us know, having read The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein, it was an obvious planned takedown of your economy.
Keep up the fight. We Central Bank Prisoners in the US send our best wishes for your success.
Viva Iceland!
Mondo
You Icelanders really are cool!
Sisters and Brothers! Kinsfolk all!!!
Resist the usurpers. Deny the usurers. They are one and the same.
Let Iceland stand as a beacon of hope for all the world to see. Let Iceland be our wakeup call!
“It is better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees.”
— Pancho Villa
That’s just great. The best news I’ve read all day! When will my fellow Americans see the light? Sadly, I don’t know.
The public opinion polls will show that Icelanders oppose the referendum eight to one. when the election happens othe result will be exactly the reverse. Wanna bet?
cool
will be interesting to see what happens –
iceland is small enough country that direct democracy is still a real option – and it is difficult for the financiers to call them terrorists because they are non-muslim country –
glad to see there’s still a few politicians there with a modicum of conscience – they will be under a lot of pressure of the worst kind no doubt
and no doubt the public will be propagandized and crushed down as much as possible prior to any referendum
but if they are forced to permanently classify iceland as terrorist country for not submitting to IMF bullying and banker fraud – it will be global public relations disaster for the bankers who are already having PR problems
You honestly think your vote will matter?
There is a legal remedy here called Odious Debt.
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Hooray for Iceland! Hope it is the beginning, rather than the end, of resistance to the the Jewish bankers who control our lives! What RIGHT do these people have to control our lives and enslave us with taxes, interest on non-existant money, and user fees?
Absolutely none!
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I’m a fascist, a Nazi (and what do you exactly have against National Socialism?) a pervert, and a child molester! But I hope you wake up one day and see who the real criminals are.
Way to go ICELAND-Its too bad American representitives didnt listen to me or my countrymen when we told our elected officials we were not responsible for corrupt Britsh and American bankers and corporations” bad decisions and we refuse to be taxed so they can be bailed out with government loans paid for by higher taxes on the working class-F-ck you IMF f-CK YOU wORLD bANK f-CK YOU fEDERAL rESERVE-
Here is a possible solution
just print some money (like the UK is) – you can then just give the corrupt UK government 1 x £2bill Krona note !
sorted
The Australian ABC Radio reported this morning that it was English depositors’ money which the Icelanders were going to decide whether they were going to pay it back.
I knew by that that the banksters controlled the ABC, as i had months ago known via the net of the situation in Iceland and so knew they were lying.
Maybe people here in the USA should collect food to send to Iceland.
They are not the poorest, but they are the ones confronting the banking gangsters most directly.
Iceland
Just vote and tell Snotty Gordon to shut it up a puffin’s arse.
The alternative, that we would stop you becoming members of the EU and the IMF will enslave you by way of usury is actually a better alternative,
With the ICESAVE debt, run up under the beady eye of James Gordon Brown, you at least know where you stand; broke but with a fighting chance of digging yourself out by way of your fish, aluminium and generic drugs. Just hang on in until the oil starts flowing fro your North Atlantic / Arctic concession and do a Norway, invest it for your collective future.
To give in would mean penal servitude for life.
Not much of a decision is it?
usuary and EU is no better alternative
sorry
If only the U.S politicians would listen to the people….THe People…not the money people. We need his caliber of representation here…wake up America!!
GOOD ON YOU ICELAND!
Show the cowardly Americans what democracy is ment to be!!!!
Keep fighting Iceland!!! Eventually people are going to wake up around the world and revolt!
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I really can’t understand why a private a bank or banks failure which are private corparations has anything to do with IceLand tax payers! A private corporation is limited in liabilities based upon its charter. When it goes bankrupt and thousands of individual people loses big time nothing is repaid. Even if iceland government agreed to pick up the private corporation bank loses once the corporation is liquidated the obligation to said bank private corporation is void. Enron and lehman Bothers can screw thousands of people without recourse and IceLand people are responsible for a private corporation. That is a double standard by powers at be with fiat money and fractional banking that should have been be limited to 1 in ten and they got toxic derivatives working to 3600 to one. As Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark twain) said! where you born that stupid or had to really work hard at it?
“where” should be “were” my typing is bad when I think my fingers are above my mind and still out perform.
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The solution is neither democracy nor money, these solutions are outdated.
I think you, Icelanders and others, should look for totally new solutions, like the Venusproject:
http://thevenusproject.com/
And at the same time you could take a look at:
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/
which is the active part of the venus project.
For starter you could watch thse movies:
Zeitgeist addendum:
Future by design:
http://dotsub.com/view/15872a88-fbfe-4b18-a47f-10e0ae06fa9f
Take care (:
TZM
Your Venus project sounds very much like something of a globalist dream. I don´t think any kind of central control is the solution to our problems. I believe in dencentralisation and cooperation on a voluntary basis between different communities. I believe we need more democracy with more opportunities for participation and not less democracy in a redesigned world by any global architects.
And most of all, I am convinced that “overpopulation” does not exist, but is a propaganda term to justify an economic war against poor people.
You are absolutely not the first to say that..
But I don’t think any of the methods we know today will be the answer to our problems.
But you have the right to have your opinions. I just hope for the world that we find the right solutions in time
Take care (:
never give in never give up.
people of Iceland i salute you.
the sheeple here in the usa have no illusions as to government by the people.
we live under a government at the people .
our private companies/banks gamble and lose and we with our economic hardships must bail out their gamboling loses.
never have so few fucked over so many in human history.
salute iceland!!!
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Nice info. Thanks for share …..
You are right, Zeitgeist is a globalist disinformation “vidiot” to once again deceive the uninformed public. This is why it is important to use one’s intuition in order to discern more mind control propaganda to which the Tavistock Institute is a master at doing.
I am very pleased to know that the people of Iceland said no to Ice-Save yet they should remain vigilant and persist in fighting so that the Prime Minister does not have the oportunity to work for the International Bankers. Most governments on this planet have been infiltrated by the Talmudic Khazarian (AshkeNAZI) Zionist bankers.
Read the novel by Jack Bernstein, and “The Thirteenth Tribe” by Arthur Koestler, and while you are at it, peer through the interview of Harold W. Rosenthal, in 1976, where he says that there is no such thing as Anti-Semite, for he knew that most people in Israel are of Khazarian descent with no ties to Shem, the son of Noah. Noah was a Sumerian, not Hebrew, who had three wives one white, one the colour of the Earth, and one oriental. The white wife gave birth to Shem or Sem and it is from him that the word Shemite or Semite originated.
The plan for world control comes from a law in the Babylonian Talmud to which the king of the Khazars converted in the seventh century. This book is pure evil for in it you find the most abominable of all evils the rape of children, animals and dead bodies. The Pharasees that wrote this book were Satanists, and Ka-baal-lah is nothing more than black magic. The god baal was depicted as half human and half bull. Animals and children were sacrificed to this beast.
During the W.W.II, Hitler persecuted the Sephardic Jews which were of Judean descent. Red Cross released documents where it says how many died ranging in the number of three hundred and fifty thousand. Most died of the thypus epidemic caused by lice.
Lets remember that during the Great War the Zionist Rabbis tried to impinge the lie of six million Jews even then but did not catch on because they didn’t have absolute power as later they secured during the Second World War.
The first pogroms were conducted during the Babylonian enslavement by king Nebbuchednezzar, where hidden deals were struck between the Baby-kings and the Rabbis to control their people from mixing with the Babylonians for fear of losing their mind control religion. Back then the name Judaism didn’t exist, it was called Talmudism. The “Protocols of Zion” are a concise description of this very sick book.
During the time of Christ there were many cults – which all religions are – including the Manicheans, the Saducees, the Essenes and then the Pagan cults called the Eleusian mysteries to which the Greeks and Egyptian worshipped in previous times.
Watch, on Youtube. com, Bettany Hughes’s videos on “Athens- dawn of democracy” and you will find where the word “testify” comes from. In effect, democracy – the rule of the ignorant mob – is not a system that serves the people but the ruling class, while a Republic is an elegant form of democracy since it does not suppress the freedom of the individual but furthers the cooperation between individuals. It is for this reason that the Zionist bankers set out to destroy the US Constitution soon after the FED was created.
Here one can see why ignorance has been enforced through the Media, the school system; and why everything has been done in secret, for they knew that true knowledge is power.
I pray that the Icelandic people become informed, and do not let themselves be more manipulated for they will become just slaves. Keep in mind that you are the true Semites.